I have been reading a discussion on Jordan Bortz’s site, around the Lack of Scrum Success stories becoming a concern… in principal I agree with the title, there are far to few success stories…but that is not the failing of scrum or agile in my view.

I firmly believe that its always about people never about process…Scrum is a process in that regards, so that leaves people at the crux of the problem Jordan is writing about.

He is , in my view, missing out something, for the sake of this conversation, lets say there are 2 crude stages,

1. The adoption of scrum

2. The ongoing use of scrum

I would challenge him that he is actually referring to the lack of success of scrum adoption.

I have come across and heard many stories of companies wanting to buy scrum, to do scrum without being agile, its like wanting the results of diet, without the work by taking a magic pill…there are no magic pill’s.

You can put all the agile / scrum ceremonies (process) in place and not get the outcomes your after, your culture (people) needs to change also, and this is the challenging part.


Whats your experience ?

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3 Responses to Lack of Scrum Success stories – its about the people not the process…

  1. Jordan says:

    Of course people are more important than process, but does the (scrum) process help the people? The evidence seems to be no.

    Your points are addressed in the comments on my site….. and actually had been already but they are once again addressed 🙂

    People can make excuses all they want but Yahoo! has been doing this for almost 7 years now and when was the last time anyone went to a yahoo property? It’s time to put a fork in it.


  2. cuan says:

    Hey Jordan,

    I do agree that there is problem, just keen to make sure its correctly identified…what’s your suggestion in the place of Scrum ? Back to Prince 2 / PMI ?


    • Jordan says:

      Well, I think people should do what makes sense. If they can’t figure that out they should get out of the business.

      Since people have asked me what my approach is, I wrote it up here:

      I don’t think it’s the universal cure, nor do I certify people in it, but I think it’s a lot more of a solution related to sw dev than most methodologies I’ve seen….

      Actually it’s more a well done waterfall in an incremental fashion than “Agile”….maybe waterfall just didn’t work for some people because they “didn’t do it right” 😉